Ogre’s Politics and Views

After years of litigation a verdict was finally reached for Salim Hamdan, Osama Bin Laden’s driver and detainee accused of war crimes. While cleared of conspiracy he was convicted on multiple counts of material support for terrorism. Legal groups like the ACLU and the Center for Constitutional Rights quickly criticized the ruling. Certain media elements were not far behind. Much of the criticism was understandable, and much was distorted through the lens of bias. Most of the criticism ended up being deflated after a surprisingly lenient sentence of five and a half years, including five years and a month already served. This sentence fell short of the thirty years to life the prosecutors wanted. Even one of Salim’s defense attorneys admitted the verdict was fair and just. However, a fair outcome doesn’t necessarily reflect a fair process. So, are the military tribunals for the Guantanamo detainees fair? To answer this question we must critically look at both sides of the argument, the details of the process itself, and understand how we arrived at this point.
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I think this is very accurate concerning the ACLU!

Hat tip to Hoosier Army Mom.

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So, do you think anyone would have any problem with this?

Since “unrestricted” individual speech clearly threatens public safety, the 1st Amendment can be interpreted to allow a variety of speech restrictions, according to the Bush Administration.

US Solicitor General Paul Clement suggested that speech rights are limited and subject to “reasonable regulation” and said the federal government should be free to set limits they see fit.

“Given the unquestionable threat to public safety that unrestricted individual speech would entail, various categories of speech-related regulation are permitted by the 1st Amendment,” he wrote in a brief.

He noted especially the new federal ban on hate crimes and those many other “particularly dangerous types of speech,” and endorsed restrictions on speech by felons, those subject to restraining orders, drug users, and “mental defectives.”

Tim Salamon, of the anti-free speech group, the ACLU, told Ogre he salutes the administrator for its position.

Do you think statements like that would make news anywhere? Or do you think the formerly mainstream media would just ignore them as ravings of radicals? The speech and positions ARE REAL. The only different is that the government is claiming it’s the second amendment that doesn’t exist, not the first.

Once again, those who believe the Constitution means whatever they want it to are claiming that nine of the first ten amendments apply to individuals, but the second amendment doesn’t. And of course, when the government shows up and starts claiming that people are not allowed to own firearms, that’s when the second amendment is needed more than ever. Keep in mind:

A well-regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.

The key part of that is “being necessary to the security of a free state.” The more the government can disarm people, the more they can exercise control over them — and the less freedom you shall have.

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Let’s see… a judge has ruled:

The identification of targets and methods of surveillance would permit adversaries to evade surveillance, conceal their activities, and possibly mislead investigators through false information.

So think about that one just a moment. The judge said that the US intelligence agencies are using certain methods to track and locate TERRORISTS. The agencies are using certain methods to spy on FOREIGNERS who may be terrorists. And the judge ruled the the agencies don’t have to tell everyone on the planet exactly how they’re tracking and attempting to locate these FOREIGN, NON-US-CITIZEN terrorists.

So yes, the ACLU is upset. Just more concrete proof that the ACLU really and truly is absolutely anti-American.

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Have a Merry Tossmas! That’s hilarious!

Hat tip to Kat.

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Quick question — how is it that a library that’s paid for with my taxpayer government cash is somehow not responsible and those pictures are NOT an endorsement by government — but an employee of the government, for example, a school teacher, who simply carries a Bible with them, or says, “Merry Christmas” IS a complete and total representative of all government everywhere and must be banned?

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Hey look, more evidence that shows government should completely get out of the education business entirely:

Gideons Keep Out of North Carolina’s Elementary Schools!

A North Carolina school district is putting an end to the donations of Bibles to elementary school kids.
The Cumberland County school system says state law limits the practice strictly to high schools and has issued instructions banning it at 54 elementary schools in the metro Fayetteville area.
The move comes after a parent complained about the stack of Bibles left in her son’s classroom earlier this month. The same parent filed a complaint with the American Civil Liberties Union.
The Fayetteville Observer said that while a 1998 court decision allows outside groups to make Bibles available to high school students, the ACLU contends it doesn’t apply to elementary kids who might see the practice as promoting Christianity over other religions.
The Bibles came from the Gideons, the group best known for supplying Bibles to hotel rooms.

Gideons be warned. The ACLU are likely to jail you if you try to share the gospel to kids. What? You thought the Constitution protected freedom of religion? Not according to the ACLU’s version. Maybe you should try pro-Palestian, or pro-Communist propaganda. Or maybe install some footbaths to accomadate Muslims. The ACLU seem to think these are protected speech.
The ACLU have a long history of going after the Gideons, but talk about splitting hairs. I thought their argument was based on public schools being government funded. Whats the difference between Elementary and High Schools on that basis? A biased loophole is all. Once again the ACLU lives up to its reputation as America’s number one religious censor.
Conservative Belle:

I wonder if parents of an elementary school student in NC could sue the state now and claim there is age discrimination by only allowing Bibles for teenagers. They seemed to be the ones now discriminated against. The ACLU is once again picking and choosing their ridiculous battles.

Lobo emails this article on it as well and says:

“The ACLU also argued that the case did not support Bible distribution in elementary schools. >>>Those students are impressionable<<< and would likely think that the school was promoting the Bible by making it available, said Katherine Lewis Parker, the legal director for the ACLU of North Carolina.”
Is the ACLU admitting that students are “impessionable” when it comes to the Bible but NOT when it involves teaching and advocating Islam in our schools? Or homosexuality? etc.

A North Carolina school district is putting an end to the donations of Bibles to elementary school kids.

The Cumberland County school system says state law limits the practice strictly to high schools and has issued instructions banning it at 54 elementary schools in the metro Fayetteville area.

The move comes after a parent complained about the stack of Bibles left in her son’s classroom earlier this month. The same parent filed a complaint with the American Civil Liberties Union.

The Fayetteville Observer said that while a 1998 court decision allows outside groups to make Bibles available to high school students, the ACLU contends it doesn’t apply to elementary kids who might see the practice as promoting Christianity over other religions.

The Bibles came from the Gideons, the group best known for supplying Bibles to hotel rooms.

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